Anyways... (as my husband would say, despite my protests that it's not a word), last night I braved the sauna-like conditions of the Central Line to head to the monthly meeting of the London Writers' Club. I emerged, dewy and glistening (i.e., drenched in sweat), ready to hear Scott Pack hold forth on everything there is to know in the wonderful world of publishing.
Scott runs The Friday Project (a HarperCollins imprint) and also works as Digital Director for HarperCollins. Not only that, he also blogs at Me and My Big Mouth and runs the BookSwap events in Windsor. All that and the man loves cake. How could I resist?
Although I didn't get to know everything there is to know about publishing -- like, how one can bribe Waterstone's without using cash to get books on their discount table -- I did learn a lot.
Here's a few of his points:
- Twitter does help sell books. Case in point: The Atheists' Guide to Christmas. Almost all of the authors in the anthology were on Twitter. On a designated day about two weeks before the pub date, they all tweeted about the book. It rose from 200,000 to 11 on Amazon!
- Publishing is a funny thing -- what works in one territory doesn't necessarily work in another. For example: Shit my Dad Says is a massive seller in the States but is only a minor hit here in the UK. There's still a lot of territorial-ism in publishing. Much in publishing is about luck and timing, too.
- No matter how big something is on the Internet, about 80 to 90 per cent of your target bookbuyers won't have heard of it.
- Broadsheet reviews don't sell books, because the books reviewed are usually too literary or obscure. It's much better to get news or features in broadsheets than reviews.
- Word of mouth is still one of the best ways to get momentum -- particularly if the book has a low publicity budget.
- If you're going to go down the self-publishing road, make sure to invest in a good copy-editor and cover designer.
He said a whole lot more but I tired of scribbling notes and started fixating on the promised cakes...
Many thanks to Scott and the London Writers' Club for another great event!
Interesting blog Talli especially what you say about Broadsheet reviews - I've always found them obscure, glad to have my thoughts affirmed! Lisa x
ReplyDeleteSounds fascinating. Glad to know that all my Twittering won't go to waste! And how was the cake?
ReplyDeleteI guess I better learn about Twitter and really use mine then!!! Maybe I will when I am ready to start querying, focus my time on marketing.
ReplyDeleteGreat advice, thanks for giving us a sneak peek! I like knowing what works and what doesn't. I'll keep sharing my book with others!
Excellent points and I LOVE the title of this post:)
ReplyDeleteHm... maybe I should dust off the twitter. But deciding not to use it because it got in the way of writing was such a good choice! I get way more done sans twitter :-P
ReplyDeleteGood post. Still don't think I'd want to go the self-publishing route, though.
ReplyDeleteQuite an informative meeting. Worth glistening for :)
ReplyDeleteInteresting information. I'm surprised at the 80 to 90 percent of the target base that won't have heard of the book despite a huge internet presence. I would thought more 60 to 70 the way the internet is going.
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Thanks for sharing this, Talli. Interesting about Twitter. Do you know how many authors were involved in the group tweet?
ReplyDeleteSuch useful information, as always. And yes, a great post title. I thought mine was good this time, too. A catchy title WILL draw people in.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comment on my Garbage Can Lid post. And I'm so looking forward to reading The Hating Game...
Very interesting, Talli! Thanks so much for sharing this. I'm learning a lot from your posts! :-)
ReplyDeleteIsn't that odd? As a fan of both Sh*t My Dad Says (yay for Montreal authors!) and UK stuff (watched a lot of Red Dwarf for the gazillionth time last night!), I don't see why we can't all just get along :-)
ReplyDeleteThanks for braving the heat and telling us all about this interesting talk.
ReplyDeleteHope you enjoyed the cake too.
Great tips - thanks so much for sharing! :)
ReplyDeleteThank you for sharing the points. Totally agree on everything! I'm still learning about twitter. I'm using it to make connections with other writers but that's about it. We're ALL trying to sell our books!
ReplyDeleteSome great advice from Scott - especially as it's easy for me to forget or assume that because I'm online, not everyone else is, or gets so much of their information in the same way I gather mine.
ReplyDeleteIf he didn't share everything he knows, that means he'll have to do another event in future, so there's always the prospect of more cake. :)
Good news about the use of Twitter. I love hearing from people in publishing so thanks for passing his words on to us. Bet you went for the chocolate cake even if you were half melting... or was it the lemon drizzle or maybe you went for the shortcake biscuits with strawberries sliced on top. Which was it?
ReplyDelete*smiles at the tube train image* worn the same sweaty Tshirt. LOL
ReplyDeleteInteresting post, thanks for sharing.
I read about an author who was published because of Twitter. She and an agent became Twitter pals, the agent checked her out and bingo, a contract.
It proves it pays to be a Twitterer, or is that Tweeterer...or as we Brits say, a Twit(fool/idiot). ;0
oooh those were all good points.
ReplyDeletei still refuse to join twitter. we'll see how things change once i have representation
Excellent, excellent post. As someone who longs to go to conferences and events like these (but never seems able to), this was so much fun to read and all your points are so useful to know! Thanks for this.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting stats! Will have to check out that blog too. :)
ReplyDeleteSo helpful!! I guess you can never underestimate the power of Twitter. Thanks so much for sharing!
ReplyDeleteVery interesting - and good to know. I'll have to jump back on Twitter again...see what I'm missing.
ReplyDeleteAwww Talli Roland!! The things you suffer and endure to get the inside scoop on publishing and all things writer-ly!! Thank you so much for sharing them here - it's a fascinating read!
ReplyDeleteIt kind of proves how volatile and unpredictable the publishing market is - but also how exciting!!!
Anyways - LOL!! I hope you had your cake and ate them too!! You deserve a whole bakery!!
Take care
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All good points. Thanks for sharing.
ReplyDeleteOh, and by the way, HA! *Looooove* the title :)
Thanks for the comments, everyone!
ReplyDeleteI can't tell you how much Twitter has helped me with promotion and networking! Really - I'd encourage anyone to give it a go!
Thanks for the tips! I've thought about using Twitter, but I'm still not entirely clear on how it works. Plus I don't think my Tweets would be that interesting. Maybe if my life was more like that of a Bond girl I'd have a Twitter page.
ReplyDeleteOoh, interesting.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious too who click here because of the title :)
What great tips! Thanks for sharing. And, I guess I can't resist Twitter forever, can I? LOL
ReplyDeleteIf I ever publish a book and have a book launch, I will have to take a cake to lure you there.
ReplyDeleteThanks for all that info, it's very interesting.
Better get a handle on this twittering thing then! How was the cake?
ReplyDeletethank you for being a fountain of publishing and blog information!
ReplyDeleteVery interesting Talli. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteThought provoking and informative post, Talli, many thamks for sharing that. Karen x
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ReplyDeleteGee Talli, you did really well for someone who was concentrating on cake. :D
ReplyDeleteNo kidding. These are great tips.
Thanks for passing those along, Talli!
ReplyDeleteAnd 'anyways' drives me nuts, too.
Thanks for sharing! There's nothing more powerful than word of mouth.
ReplyDeleteThanks for this info! Interesting!!
ReplyDeleteI knew it! I'm going to have to bite the bullet and try to figure Twitter out. Thanks for the great tips, Talli!
ReplyDeleteWhat kind of cakes were available?
ReplyDeleteThat's a great example of how effective Twitter can be.
I am lame about Twittering. Need to read up on what makes a good tweet. My tweets are too often about the weather (like a phone conversation with my dad) and hot guys (NOT like a phone conversation with my dad).
ReplyDeleteHi Talli .. I bet it was sweltering on the Central Line.
ReplyDeleteBut your thoughts coming out of the workshop are interesting .. thanks for jotting them down for us ..
Have a cooler rest of the week?! .. Hilary
Some interesting facts. Thanks for sharing these with us.
ReplyDeleteReading your comments about Twitter (and yesterday about Google reader) have made me realise how much I still don't know about the internet and self-promotion. I've just got to grips with blogging, but have no idea about Twitter!
ReplyDeleteYou know something Talli, you're one of the most helpful people i have ever met especially when it comes to advice on writing, blogging, getting published and of course drinking wine and coffee things i love a lot. Great tips and good you had fun, interesting blog at "Me and His big Mouth"
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Really interesting points Talli. Thanks for sharing - always hard to concentrate when there's a cake in the offing.
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