tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post8361500270571658289..comments2023-10-22T14:04:46.934+01:00Comments on Talli Roland: Why Can't We All Get Along?Talli Rolandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04780882465745107715noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-35695730373211234832010-08-07T03:59:46.662+01:002010-08-07T03:59:46.662+01:00Thank you for this post.
It's sad, and ridicu...Thank you for this post.<br /><br />It's sad, and ridiculous, that writers have to defend their genres. Writing itself is difficult enough, no matter what it is that you're writing. There's no need for all the derision and pointing fingers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-71682526920617856472010-08-06T15:26:29.452+01:002010-08-06T15:26:29.452+01:00You wanna know what's funny... those genres at...You wanna know what's funny... those genres at the 'bottom' have a lot wider readership (says the woman writing a 'write-for-hire'-straight to paperback, Cozy mystery series). I think it makes people feel smart or something, but I am with you... lets just get along. We all write.Hart Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17599570189253229318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-6850562015937106712010-08-06T15:12:14.624+01:002010-08-06T15:12:14.624+01:00It's interesting that when a man writes a roma...It's interesting that when a man writes a romance/bodice ripper (e.g. The Reliable Wife), it's termed "literary fiction." But when a woman writes it, it becomes category romance and/or chick lit? Double standard. Either way, I just want to read a good story.<br /><br />Great post - and very timely. I was having this very discussion earlier in the week with my writer friends.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-17488187440010049872010-08-06T09:46:49.488+01:002010-08-06T09:46:49.488+01:00Hello Talli. I've read all of the other articl...Hello Talli. I've read all of the other articles attached to your post. I cannot believe that a writer wouldn't want to let the public know of her gender! I read books mostly written by women and the funniest were written by women! This is mind-boggling. Whatever they say, however they look down on chick-lit or womens fiction, whatever they call it, I will continue reading this kind of books and will support women fiction writers! :-)Len Lamberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13394563639136301725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-7818155962420329832010-08-06T08:51:36.366+01:002010-08-06T08:51:36.366+01:00You're just taking all the fun out of snark!You're just taking all the fun out of snark!India Drummondhttp://www.indiadrummond.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-67617454978318901592010-08-06T08:48:51.586+01:002010-08-06T08:48:51.586+01:00So true. I can't believe romantic novels weren...So true. I can't believe romantic novels weren't included in the list at all, how incredible, especially when there always seem to be at least one or two on the bestsellers lists at one time.Deborah Carr (Debs)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03223653554549707595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-58301761786505415632010-08-06T08:11:00.497+01:002010-08-06T08:11:00.497+01:00Well said, Talli! Why should some genres be ignore...Well said, Talli! Why should some genres be ignored? Why do writers of other genres look down their noses and romance or chick-lit? Both are highly successful genres!Ellie Garratthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03731071128348213067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-23314924194619544772010-08-06T03:27:17.734+01:002010-08-06T03:27:17.734+01:00Great post, Talli! I completely agree with you. Th...Great post, Talli! I completely agree with you. There will always be an audience for great books and the thought that genre-bashing articles could discourage somebody from writing a potentially-awesome book is really sad.Cat Lavoiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11712502980229138259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-66599381445071884742010-08-06T03:26:44.952+01:002010-08-06T03:26:44.952+01:00Thanks for following me. I think in the U.S. they ...Thanks for following me. I think in the U.S. they have changed the name from chick lit to something else, and I'm not sure what the latest title is. I see you have many fans. Well done.Gutsy Livinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02226653890127738115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-32128759353843846292010-08-06T02:00:54.817+01:002010-08-06T02:00:54.817+01:00I cannot believe romance novels weren't at the...I cannot believe romance novels weren't at the top of the pyramid. My library has more romance novels than mystery and horror combined. If only I could write romance...le sigh...Alleged Authorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04869021184116123477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-32130507491144924692010-08-06T01:39:06.236+01:002010-08-06T01:39:06.236+01:00The reason people criticize others is because it m...The reason people criticize others is because it makes them feel rather special. <br /><br />So, my advice to you is, read 'em, if you want or have time, & continue to do what you do.notesfromnadirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09904500676081267972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-1221571218119777352010-08-05T23:54:11.039+01:002010-08-05T23:54:11.039+01:00Hear Hear! I agree and you know I'm not a fan...Hear Hear! I agree and you know I'm not a fan of pigeon holes and labels. There is room for everyone in the writing universe and people will decide who they like with their money when they venture into book stores or online. Romance novels, Womens Fiction, Chicklit are HUGE business and here to stay no matter what the publishers wish to label them.Taleihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07317577935549931974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-55419021022245985842010-08-05T23:06:24.213+01:002010-08-05T23:06:24.213+01:00AMEN! You tell 'em Talli! But I do agree. I...AMEN! You tell 'em Talli! But I do agree. It doesn't matter your genre, if you are outside of the genre "society" and part of the "acceptable" crowd, you can forget it. Okay, well, maybe not forget it but you certainly don't have an easy job of it. Fantasy, Sci-Fi and Romance authors seem to have the worst of it in having to defend their work. Just a few days ago, I blogged about how someone told me you don't have to work hard at being a fantasy author because you just get to make stuff up.<br />Seriously.<br />We're all in this together, we all have a story to tell so what is the issue here?<br />Give 'em hell, girl!Mel Chesleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08200734886454147170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-84760968510634565502010-08-05T22:52:23.994+01:002010-08-05T22:52:23.994+01:00Oh boy, lol, and then you get pyramids inside genr...Oh boy, lol, and then you get pyramids inside genres here in the US of A. LOL- some people don't even consider you "published" and worthy to sit with them if you don't have the "Right" publisher. *shakes head* <br />I just laugh at it all and then write them into murder mysteries...bwahahaha<br />Cheers~Nancy J. Parrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10107417252662717576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-91682015249557483242010-08-05T20:46:29.783+01:002010-08-05T20:46:29.783+01:00Snobbery exists everywhere. In the fall, I wrote ...Snobbery exists everywhere. In the fall, I wrote a post about different "classes" of educators. It's the same in writing I suppose. <br /><br />Children's book authors get little respect but probably have the most devoted audience. I enjoy reading a variety of genres, and don't think one is better than the other.<br /><br />Everywhere we go, we're told what we should and shouldn't do, what's right and wrong, and whether what we do has value. Rarely do those people matter to us. <br /><br />You've published two nonfiction book and will soon publish chick lit. Hooray!Theresa Milsteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03477761307315565259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-28694768091706256752010-08-05T20:10:41.649+01:002010-08-05T20:10:41.649+01:00I'll play it first and tell you what it is lat...I'll play it first and tell you what it is later.<br />-- Miles Davis<br /><br />"Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art." - Charlie "YardBird" Parker<br /><br />"Gram Parsons' writing brought his own personal generations poetry and vision into the very traditional format of country music, and he came up with something completely different" - Emmylou Harris<br /><br />Just saying...refuse to belong to a type, a classification, a genre, a school. Belong to yourself. When someone asks you what kind of writer you are - say you're a genuine one. Refuse to choose. <br /><br /><a href="http://www.labanan.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Jan Morrison</a>Jan Morrisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01771180344305042855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-47245123197161473172010-08-05T19:53:26.493+01:002010-08-05T19:53:26.493+01:00I agree. There is room for everyone, regardless of...I agree. There is room for everyone, regardless of genre.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04313619484424363895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-36168407480236641962010-08-05T19:43:28.061+01:002010-08-05T19:43:28.061+01:00I'd read the McCrum article a couple of months...I'd read the McCrum article a couple of months ago and wondered. I hadn't read the other articles before. Thanks for posting them!j.leigh.baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12086576155269323425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-12520923756314953262010-08-05T19:26:17.512+01:002010-08-05T19:26:17.512+01:00Too right Talli, you should never have to defend y...Too right Talli, you should never have to defend your genre! Esp if its the genre leading the way - the last issue of Mslexia notes that the majority of e-book purchasers are women in their thirties/forties and are readers of, you guessed it, romantic fiction. <br />Writing with a female name can no way be the kiss of death, thats nuts! Women write 60% of fiction and women readers also outnumber their male counterparts. Methinks they protest too much!Niamhhtp://niamhboyce.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-31311193088520544002010-08-05T19:11:05.980+01:002010-08-05T19:11:05.980+01:00Man, screw those haters, I say. Every genre is wor...Man, screw those haters, I say. Every genre is worthy of respect. If that weren't the case, then how would chick lit and romance be making big money? Are the haters basically declaring us idiots who don't know the difference between good and bad fiction?<br /><br />I love the linkage and I think you're very right about us writers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-23823062511767683442010-08-05T18:58:51.373+01:002010-08-05T18:58:51.373+01:00Well said Talli! Why can't we all get along? I...Well said Talli! Why can't we all get along? I hate writing snobbery.Glynis Peters https://www.blogger.com/profile/01175378917872403609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-84627140876065164402010-08-05T18:55:23.528+01:002010-08-05T18:55:23.528+01:00HERE HERE!HERE HERE!Taherehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03111022596822176769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-57639124536494606962010-08-05T18:28:57.699+01:002010-08-05T18:28:57.699+01:00I'm seeing the same thing with commercial vs. ...I'm seeing the same thing with commercial vs. literary. Gosh, we do need to get over ourselves and just write. <br /><br />A lot of these articles saying this type of writing or that type of writing is dead are usually so slanted that I can barely get through them.About Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10011023963327391019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-80945045074052542442010-08-05T18:26:21.401+01:002010-08-05T18:26:21.401+01:00I agree. I wish there weren't all these strict...I agree. I wish there weren't all these strict categories and assumptions about them. Why can't there be a mix?<br />I also think it's dumb how "literary fiction" equals "snooty" and supposedly "doesn't sell." <br /><br />All we can do is write whatever it is that we write with pride. -LeeLRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16839870925431989156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3869854312562524230.post-61756369797079877472010-08-05T18:22:30.216+01:002010-08-05T18:22:30.216+01:00Great post, Talli, thanks. I am pondering a pen na...Great post, Talli, thanks. I am pondering a pen name and your post helped. Hmm, or did it muddy the waters even further? Either way, it's all good.<br /><br />Thanks, <a href="http://thatrebelwithablog.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">that rebel, Olivia</a>Olivia J. Herrell, writing as O.J. Barréhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107021392937169669noreply@blogger.com